Cafe Dialogues: Sesemae, Chinese Takeaway, Glasgow

A further strand we are developing is a listening survey of conversations from various settings. What do these snapshot conversations tell us about the nature of modern life

Conversation between two men

Ordered one large chips.....

This was a coincidental meeting of two men with similar experiences. The first was on a zero hours contact as a delivery driver during the day and delivered food for a Chinese Takeaway food store at night. The second man was ordering his large chips. The conversation started because the first man was yawning and saying how he was looking forward to the end of his shift. As the conversation progressed, it became clear that the second man who was older, had had similar experiences and in fact knew the company the first man worked for.

The first theme of the conversation was the need for men to do what you had to to make a living when you were just married and had small children. In this the older man affirmed the behaviour of the younger and assured him that the hard work paid off. The second theme was the desire for security, the younger man on a zero hours contract had plenty of work this week but not guarantee for the following weeks. Again the older man was supportive suggesting that the company were decent, the owner is brand new, he started with a wee escort van and now has lorries going to every island in Scotland. Again, the message is that hard work is rewarded and the future was positive.

This dialogue was a snapshot of some aspects of the experience of working class males in 21st Century Scotland. Although economic and employment stability is a thing of the past, the expectation is that the male is the provider. This role is accepted with humour and resignation, it's just what you have to do....even though we got divorced a few years later, said the older man.

It was also an example of how men informally support each other in their maleness. Other was a sense of care and the passing on of folk wisdom from the elder to the younger. This process of socialization which might have happened in the shipyards of the old Clydeside, informally and through apprenticeship relationships, continues in chance conversations in Chinese takeaways.

It reveals the need to support and be supported.

It could also be seen as an example of how hegemony works through every level of society. Socialized gender roles, an acceptance of exploitative employment and a belief in the fairness of the world - work hard and prosper - are all strengthened and internalized. No question of why some people have to work two jobs to survive, no question of how the world could be different.

The challenge for community educators is, how how we either get involved in these conversations or set up situations where these issues are explored. Maybe with a more historical or wider social analysis, these conversations might go in very different directions.